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Beginners Guide to Nootropic Stacks

David Tomen
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If you are new to nootropics, and don’t know where to start, this post is for you.

I’ll not insult your intelligence and suggest starting with something simple like caffeine and L-Theanine. Instead, let’s put together a stack that’s simple, safe and powerful. And won’t crush your monthly budget.

First, let’s lay the ground rules for building a stack. Dr. Giurgea, the chemist who came up with Piracetam in 1963, gave us a list of 5 criteria that a substance must have to be considered a true nootropic.

Dr. Giurgea suggested that a true nootropic:

  • Enhances memory and the ability to learn
  • Assists brain function under disruptive conditions such as lack of oxygen and electroconvulsive shock
  • Protects the brain from chemical and physical toxins like anticholinergic drugs and barbiturates
  • Increases natural cognitive processes
  • Must be non-toxic to humans, nor stimulate or depress the brain

The bottom-line is this stack must be safe to use even long-term. You’ll make improvements to cognition and mood. And if you decide nootropics aren’t for you, you’ll simply go back to baseline where you started. With no damage done and nothing to repair.

Here we’ll put together a simple nootropic stack based on the above criteria. A stack that will:

  1. Enhance concentration and focus
  2. Improve your mood and lower anxiety
  3. Increase your energy without irritability and avoid a crash when it wears off
  4. Boost your memory
  5. Reduce stress and fatigue
  6. Boost learning ability

Sound good? Let’s get started…

Nootropic Stack Synergy

It’s important to understand that a nootropic stack should work synergistically. Because each supplement has a different mechanism of action in your brain and body. And each supplement in your stack should support the other nootropics in your stack.

For example, acetylcholine’s function in your brain is needed for encoding new memories, reasoning, concentration, cognition and growth of new neurons (neurogenesis).

Once acetylcholine does its job, the enzyme acetylcholinesterase comes in and breaks down acetylcholine.

You can increase acetylcholine by adding Alpha GPC, CDP-Choline or Acetyl-L-Carnitine (ALCAR) to your stack.

But if you use more than one acetylcholine (ACh) precursor or supplement, you can boost ACh too much. Excess ACh can cause depression, irritability, muscle pain and a host of other problems.

Also keep in mind that a nootropic like Huperzine-A inhibits acetylcholinesterase. Which increases ACh levels in your brain. So if you are using Hup-A in your stack, you may want to cut back on your dose of Alpha GPC, CDP-Choline or other choline supplement.

Many nootropic supplements either increase ACh or inhibit acetylcholinesterase. If you take more than one choline supplement, you’ll hit a ceiling and not get a synergistic effect. The same goes for other neurotransmitters, and many other supplements in our List of Nootropics.

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Cumulative Effect of Nootropics

Keep in mind that the effect of some nootropics can be cumulative. And the effects build up in your brain over time. A good example is Huperzine-A which has a half-life of 24-hours.

Dosing Hup-A everyday means your body never has a chance to get rid of some of the Hup-A, and it builds up over-time. Even in the short-term. Which can be toxic. So you should cycle Huperzine-A and restrict use to every 2nd or 3rd day.

For each nootropic you are considering, always, always read dosage recommendations, side effects and possible interaction with other nootropics or prescription drugs.

Water-Soluble vs. Fat-Soluble Nootropics

Another thing to consider is that some nootropics are water-soluble. And some are fat-soluble.water soluble vs. fat soluble nootropics

Water-soluble nootropics are generally easily absorbed. Fat-soluble nootropics however, require a quality fat to ensure they get used by your brain. And can cross your blood-brain barrier and enter brain cells.

This explains why some supplement labels recommend you take their nootropic with a meal. The manufacturer is implying that it’s a fat-soluble supplement. And they’re counting on the fat in your meal to boost bioavailability.

Whenever I’m about to take my nootropic stack, I always precede it with a tablespoon of unrefined coconut oil.

You can also use extra virgin olive oil. But I prefer coconut oil because the MCT’s are like rocket fuel for my brain. In addition to helping my brain absorb whatever fat-soluble nootropics I’m using.

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Beginner Nootropic Stack

This stack works well for someone just starting out with nootropics. And it works well for experienced neurohackers as well.

CDP-Choline (Citicoline) 250 mg twice per day taken in the morning and at noon. This highly bioavailable source of choline easily crosses the blood-brain barrier.

CDP-Choline is metabolized in your body to form choline and cytidine. Choline aids in the synthesis of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine (ACh) in your brain. And cytidine converts to uridine which is important for forming brain cell membranes.

Bacopa Monnieri (24% bacosides) up to 250 mg per day taken in the morning. Bacopa is an adaptogen which helps prevent the chemical and physical effects of stress. Instead of just suppressing them like prescription antidepressants.

Bacopa Monnieri is used to reduce anxiety, depression and stress. And helps boost memory, concentration and reaction time. Bacopa is also used for neuroprotection by helping to maintain a healthy balance of neurotransmitters. Bacopa is also effective in treating many of the symptoms of ADHD.

Lion’s Mane Mushroom 500 mg to 3 gm per day depending on polysaccharide content. Lion’s Mane prevents neuron damage and boosts Brain Nerve Growth Factor which is important to forming new neurons (neurogenesis).

Lion’s Mane can help improve focus and attention, boost cognition, repair brain cells, and help anxiety and depression.

N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine (NALT) 500 mg twice per day taken in the morning and at noon. NALT is a highly bioavailable form of L-Tyrosine which is used in your brain to synthesize dopamine. And the neurotransmitter norepinephrine.

NALT helps alertness, concentration, executive function, focus, libido, memory, and works like an antidepressant.

L-Theanine 100 mg 3-times per day.

Or you can drink 3 or 4 cups of organic green tea during your day. Green tea is an excellent source of L-Theanine. It works quickly and helps increase both dopamine and serotonin. The “feel good” neurotransmitters in your brain.

L-Theanine stacked with caffeine provides a synergistic effect that helps promote cognition, motivation and attention. With no caffeine jitters.

Pine Bark Extract 100 mg dosed up to 3-times per day. Pine Bark extract helps boost cerebral blood flow by increasing nitric oxide which helps dilate blood vessels. And helps repair and maintain the health of blood vessel linings.

Boosting cerebral circulation with Pine Bark Extract increases levels of oxygen and glucose which maintains healthy levels of neurotransmitters. And promotes better concentration, focus and memory.

DHA (Omega-3) 1000 mg per day taken in the morning. Your brain is made up of 60% fat and much of it is in the form of DHA. This fat helps in the formation of brain cell membranes. And plays a vital role in how neurons and synapses function.

Synergistic with CDP-Choline, DHA helps in the formation of phosphatidylserine (PS) and phosphatidylcholine (PC). Two important components that make up your brain cell membranes.

Low levels of DHA can lead to ADHD, anxiety, depression, obesity, suicide, and increased risk of Alzheimer’s and dementia.

B-Vitamin Complex daily in the morning. Make sure you get a formula that is considerably higher than RDA recommendations.

  • Vitamin B1 (thiamine) is essential for producing the neurotransmitter acetylcholine. It helps turn nutrients into adenosine triphosphate (ATP), the cellular energy produced by your cell’s mitochondria. And contributes to the myelin sheath that protects axons from damage for better brain cell signaling.B-Vitamin nootropic complex
  • Vitamin B3 (Niacin) is used in the synthesis of Coenzyme-A which helps form Acetyl-CoA. Acetyl-CoA joins with choline (which you get from CDP-Choline) to form acetylcholine. Niacin is also a precursor to NAD and NADH needed for ATP synthesis in brain cell mitochondria. And Niacin stimulates the production of dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin. Neurotransmitters involved in cognition, learning, memory, mood and recall.
  • Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid) is required for the synthesis of Coenzyme-A to produce acetylcholine. You may not realize the full benefit of the rest of this nootropic stack containing CDP-Choline, or any of the racetams you may decide to add to this stack, without Vitamin B5.
  • Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) helps your body make serotonin, norepinephrine and melatonin. Your body also requires Vitamin B6 to absorb Vitamin B12 and to make red blood cells and cells for your immune system.
  • Vitamin B8 (Inositol) is involved in brain cell signaling, and is a component of brain cell membranes. Inositol helps boost serotonin and dopamine receptor density. Improving the effectiveness of serotonin, GABA, glutamate and dopamine neurotransmitters in your brain.
  • Vitamin B9 (Folate) aids in the production of DNA and RNA in your brain cells. And works closely with Vitamin B12 to make red blood cells, and help iron work properly in your body and brain.
  • Vitamin B12 (methylcobalamin) is needed to regulate homocysteine levels which are linked to inflammation in your brain and body. And B12 is a cofactor in the synthesis of neurotransmitters dopamine, GABA, norepinephrine and serotonin.

Our beginner nootropic stack covers all the criteria mentioned in the introduction to this post.

Nootropic Stack Cost

Approximate costs of each:

  • CDP-Choline (Citicoline) $19 (60 caps, 250 mg)
  • Bacopa Monnieri $18 (60 caps, 300 mg)
  • Lion’s Mane Mushroom $30 (60 caps, 500 mg)
  • N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine (NALT) $12 (120 caps, 300 grams)
  • L-Theanine $18 (90 caps, 150 mg)
  • Pine Bark Extract $10 (30 caps, 300 mg)
  • DHA $16 (60 caps, 500 mg)
  • B-Vitamin Complex $11 (100 B-100 capsules)

For approximately $134 per month you can begin optimizing your brain. I suggest using a tablespoon of unrefined coconut oil each time you take your supplements. To ensure maximum bioavailability and absorption by your body and brain.

Accurately Measuring Nootropic Powders

Nootropic supplements are now easily available in easy-to-use capsules. Your can save some some money by buying bags of powder if you are willing to spend the time making capsules. But dosage recommendations are critical so you must measure accurately. For a more accurate measurement, I recommend using a scale like the American Weigh Scales Digital Pocket Scale.

And you can make your own capsules using a simple tabletop Capsule Filling Machine which you can get usually for under $40.

Try a Professionally-Formulated Nootropic Stack

You may also want to consider trying Mind Lab Pro®, a high quality premade nootropic stack which contains all the supplements in our beginner’s formula. Mind Lab Pro also contains Phosphatidylserine (PS), and Rhodiola Rosea. For only $69 a bottle it’s less than buying each nootropic supplement on its own.

Another good option for a quality pre-made stack is made by the sister company to Mind Lab Pro. Performance Lab® has a complete line of supplements including two nootropic stacks containing the nootropic ingredients featured in this post.

Performance Lab® Mind contains Citicoline (as  Cognizin®), Phosphatidylserine (PS) (as Sharp PS® Green), L-Tyrosine (as Ajipure®) and Maritime Pine Bark extract for only $69 per bottle. Supporting focus, mental processing speed, cognition under stress, multitasking, motivation, memory, and brain health recovery.

Performance Lab® Energy contains ALCAR, R-Lipoic Acid (as Bio-Enhanced® R-Lipoic Acid), Coenzyme Q10 (as MicroActive® Q10), PQQ (as BioPQQ®), and Piperine (as BioPerine®) for only $69 per bottle. It’s a caffeine-free method of enhancing energy for body and mind. Supporting cellular ATP energy production, mitochondrial genesis and function, fat metabolism, and overall metabolic efficiency.

For a more personalized nootropic stack, or one tailored to an issue you want to address (cognition, memory, depression, energy and motivation or brain repair and maintenance), see “How to Create the Best Nootropic Stack”.

Each of the nootropics mentioned in the Beginners Guide to Nootropic Stacks has links to individual pages here on Nootropics Expert®. Each nootropic article contains dozens of clinical studies. And much more detail on how each nootropic supplement helps optimize your brain.

If you have any questions about your stack, or comments about the Beginners Stack we covered here, please leave a comment below.

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Tamer Alfrehat
June 2, 2020

Hi David
I started the nootropic stuck for bigenner 1 months ago and recently i start taking CDP choline + NACLT twice per day morning and afternoon and because i am not getting results as well and feeling so lazy during the day i start dividing the nootropics like this:
Morning. CDP choline + NALT+LION’S mane +DHA+B complex
afternoon:CDP choline + NALT
evening: l theanine + Bacopa
Night: l tryptophan
Because i still feel weak and lasy i add Taurine but not succes yet.
Recently i got liver reflections and some pain in this area and black or dark color under my eyes i think i am experiening a kind of toxicity because i start to use liver support which have milk thrislt and getting better.
I don’t know what to do i don’t want to stop and go back to doctors 8 year i was talking medications and no benefits when i stop i go back worst than before which this medications lead me to have ADD that killed my life i decide to start here to understant more about nootropics the shift to add and adhd stuck but seems more complicated i don’t know what to do???
I am thinking to get the mind pro lab but i know it will not help by it self what you suggest for me to add to mind pro lab as simple as you can please can you help me?
Regarding the what cause toxicity for me i review all nootropic many time and i used them one by one still i can’t figure out????!!!!
Aniracetam i can’t buy because not allowed in UAE
regarding my life i eat very health following ketto and IF but i want something help my memory my active life just i don’t want to give up.
Note: lion’s mane cause etching for me but still feel the effect exactly when i stuck it with CDP choline + NALt.
Sorry for the long story GOD BELSS YOU and all regards

    Tamer Alfrehat
    June 2, 2020

    I forget to mention vipocetine which i use too.

      David Tomen
      June 2, 2020

      Vinpocetine is an excellent choice and one of my favorite nootropics for increasing blood flow.

    David Tomen
    June 2, 2020

    Dr. Tamer, looks like you are on the right track and taking steps towards getting better. You don’t mention your age. So I’m assuming you’re mid-life and for that reason I am directing you to a post on taking care of the “aging” brain. https://nootropicsexpert.com/best-nootropics-for-the-aging-brain/

    If you are 45 – 50 years or older, choose two nootropic supplements from each of the categories on that page. You should begin to feel results within 2 – 3 weeks or sooner if taken daily and you follow dosage recommendations. The intent of this stack is to tame oxidative stress and inflammation and begin to restore what’s been lost by decades of living.

    You should also try to bring your energy levels up. And this is done by providing our mitochondria with what they need to produce ATP. Which is our basic source of energy. You can learn more about energy restoration and maintenance in this post: https://nootropicsexpert.com/best-energy-supplements-to-buy/

    Are you taking the recommended dosages for the nootropics you are already using? The B-Complex you are using is important. But with a Keto diet you should likely also be using a good, high quality multivitamin. More on that here: https://nootropicsexpert.com/how-to-select-the-best-multivitamin-for-brain-function/

    Finally, liver support is critical as is the rest of your body. Because our brain and body must work together if we want the energy needed to get through the day. And to feel good as well. But keep in mind that this takes time. Your are repairing decades of wear on your body and brain. It will NOT take decades to fix but will take some time.

    So be patient, stay with it, and be willing to experiment until you find the perfect combination of supplements for your unique situation.

      Tamer Alfrehat
      June 2, 2020

      Thank you very much i really appreciate it.
      I am a dentist 31 years old and when i am taking the NALT + CDP CHOLINE + lion’sman before the my the work i do such creative amazing results within short time but why i got dark or black colour under my eyes???
      iam folowing the recommendations doeses as well but i’m taking NALt + cdp choline twice per day morning and early afternoon.
      If i add gingko it will be good idea or not????
      And if i get mind pro lab what should i avoid from this nootrpic stuck????
      Thank you so much again for everything and the spport and hope that you give it to all this people around the word such an amazing work God bless Mr.David

        David Tomen
        June 2, 2020

        Dr. Tamer, your comment about “why I got dark or black color under my eyes” is not a know side effect of any of these supplements. Only thing I can think of is you’re not getting enough sleep? 🙂

        Ginkgo Biloba may be a good addition to your stack. But it all depends on what you’re trying to do. It will amplify the effects of NALT so watch you do not raise dopamine too much. And it increases blood flow in your brain which is a good thing.

        If you really get stuck set up a consultation with me. And we’ll spend a quality hour getting you sorted out.

      Tamer Alfrehat
      June 2, 2020

      Thank you very much i really appreciate it.
      I am a dentist 31 years old and when i am taking the NALT + CDP CHOLINE + lion’sman before the my the work i do such creative amazing job and results,within short time but why i got dark or black colour under my eyes???
      iam folowing the recommendations doeses as well but i’m taking NALt + cdp choline twice per day morning and early afternoon.
      If i add gingko it will be good idea or not????
      And i am wondering if adding ALCAR to this nootropic stuck it will not boost the acetylcholine so much no side effect???? Regarding B complex i got B100 from now company.
      And i will get mind pro lab and choose 2 nootropic from each category that you recommended for me.
      Thank you so much again for everything for the spport and hope that you give it to all this people around the world work God bless you Mr.David

        David Tomen
        June 2, 2020

        See my earlier comment to your questions. ALCAR and Mind Lab Pro would be good additions as well. But again, it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. The key to success with nootropics is experimenting until you get it right for you.

Adrian
October 28, 2019

Hi David,
I am new to this and have started with the CDP choline, Nalt, some vitamin B’s, a product called Gold which is liquid turmeric with black pepper, pine bark, st. john’s wort(minimal) and DHEA(25mg’s) at 1 time weekly. What do you think about adding Phenibut twice or once a week to that stack? I have a faster than normal brain and experience a racing mind and anxiety easily! Thank you.

    David Tomen
    October 29, 2019

    Adrian, I cannot recommend using something like Phenibut especially with someone new to using nootropics. It’s far to easy to misuse and takes a disciplined and experienced neurohacker to use Phenibut successfully and safely.

    Something like Picamilon would be safer. And even safer are nootropics like L-Theanine, Gotu Kola, Lemon Balm and maybe even GABA to tame anxiety. Each of these are powerful supplements when used as recommended.

Joe
May 7, 2019

I came across your website and began reading and watching some of your videos. I was wondering if you might have some advice for someone with seizures. They started when I was 13 years old and I have been on every anticonvulsant drug out there with no luck. I’ve been taking dr schulzes superfood everyday for the last 10 or 12 years and recently started eating a couple of tablespoons of organic sauerkraut or beet kvass before every meal. The sauerkraut and beet kvass have done wonders for my digestive system. From watching some of your vids, I’m beginning to think I might have a vitamin d3 and magnesium deficiency. The Drs keep telling me that the only thing that they can offer me is brain surgery. Something in my gut tells me that is not the way to go. The Drs don’t want to hear anything about diet of supplements. I would go ahead with surgery if they actually could find an abnormality or tumor or something in my brain that was abnormal but it all looks fine on the countless mris and other scans I’ve had over the years. Any advice on a good place to start ?

Jerad
May 3, 2019

Hi David,

Thank you for creating this site. I believe you are really helping people.

I have ADD, depression and anxiety and I’m about to start building my first stack and experimenting.

I just wanted to mention a couple of aversions I’ve had in the past and hopefully get your advice on where to start.

I’ve tried high quality fish oil a couple of different times in the past and it exasperates my depression and anxiety.

Also, my naturopath gave me vitamin b12 shots a couple of times over a week and it totally floored me. I’ve never been so depressed and it took around 3 weeks to get back to normal.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    David Tomen
    May 3, 2019

    Jerad, your reaction to both of these supplements is so unusual as to not show up in any of the research I’ve done on Side Effects for either.

    But “fish oil” is not a good idea to begin with. Please see this post on DHA and what you really need for cognitive health: https://nootropicsexpert.com/dha/

    And not sure what the cause of your B12 reaction was: https://nootropicsexpert.com/vitamin-b12-cobalamin/

    One thing you’ll learn as you get more experience with nootropics is there is no “one pill” solution. And using standalone supplement like B12 is not as good as a high quality, bio-identical B-Complex supplement.

    This Beginner’s Guide is a good place to start. For more ideas on how to deal with more specific issues, please scroll through the posts here: https://nootropicsexpert.com/category/guides/

Jean
April 14, 2019

Hi David,

I am currently taking Mucuna 400mg, GABA 400mg and L-Tryptophan 500mg. I’m feeling beneficial effects, but I still feel tired during the day. I am a beginner in the subject and I set up the next stack.
Please see and answer some questions.

Brain Health: Mucuna 400mg / morning

Neuronal Regeneration: Ashwagandha 500mg / morning

Energy: Acetyl L-carnitine 500mg / 12 noon
R-Lipoic Acid 200mg / 12 noon
Rhodiola Rosea 300mg / 2pm

Cognition / Focus: L-theanine 200mg / 4pm

Sleep: L-tryptophan 500mg and GABA 400mg / 1 hour before bed

My questions are:

1) Is there synergy in these nootropics?
2) Are dosages and timings correct?
3) Can I take some to reduce the cost?
4) If there are errors can you indicate the replacement?

Please, please help me set up an essential stock for myself. I’m a beginner.

    David Tomen
    April 15, 2019

    Jean, you can work with what you have so far. But I suggest checking the dosage for each supplement here on Nootropics Expert first.

    For example, your energy stack should be dosed morning and noon, and Mucuna should be dosed morning and noon. You may want to try L-Tyrosine in place of Mucuna and see if that works better for you.

    The synergy is there but dosages are too low and timing not frequent enough. And see if any of the stacks made by Performance Lab that contain the same ingredients you are using could bring your cost down: https://nootropicsexpert.com/performance-lab-review/

      Jean
      April 24, 2019

      Hi david

      I did as you said and I increased the dose of mucuna. 400mg in the morning and 400mg in the afternoon.

      I had an effective improvement in tiredness.

      Do you think I should increase the dose of l-tryptophan so there is no imbalance between serotonin and dopamine?

      I kept the gaba at 400mg.

      About performance lab, it is not feasible for me because I am from Brazil and do not have this company here.

        David Tomen
        April 24, 2019

        Jean, you may not need L-Tryptophan to balance serotonin and dopamine. But it certainly wouldn’t hurt either. Try 500 mg L-Tryptophan before bed and see how you feel the next day. Sleep should be better too.

Felix Banjo
March 18, 2019

Can I use Mind Lab Pro with the pre and post workout stacks they offer?

Felix Banjo
March 18, 2019

If I wanted to use the pre made mind lab pro stack could I also use it together with the pre and post workout stacks they offer?

    David Tomen
    March 19, 2019

    Felix, the Performance Lab Pre-Workout and Performance Lab Post-Workout supplement are a perfect compliment to Mind Lab Pro. And here’s why…

    Performance Lab Pre-Workout contains Creatine (for ATP mitochondrial energy), L-Citrulline (increases blood flow), L-Glutamine (increases the master antioxidant glutathione), L-Carnosine (scavenges free radicals and heavy metals), Pine Bark Extract (also in MLP for blood flow), and Cordyseps mushroom which I intend to review for Nootropics Expert because it boosts ATP in mitochondria.

    And the Performance Lab Post-Workout supplement contains Creatine (see above), Pomegranate (potent antioxidant), and Organic Coconut which I recommend using with each nootropic stack.

    I’ve reviewed some of the individual ingredients in each of these stacks here on Nootropics Expert, plan on doing a full post on mushrooms (including Cordyseps), and highly recommend these stacks even if you don’t regularly workout. They’re amazing even for overall health at any age: https://www.performancelab.com/supplements/

Steve
January 23, 2019

Hello David ,your blog and posts are amazing ! Curently my stack is :
Day 1: morning -Sylimarin 200mg with choline 80mg , ALCAR 500mg + ALA 300mg ,afternoon resveratrol 200mg + red wine extract 100mg + grape seed extract 50mg.
Day 2: morning- Taurine 850mg, afternoon PS 100mg+Ginko 40mg + CurcuBrain (now) 400mg
day3: morning NAC 600mg ,afternoon Grape seed extract 200mg + green tea extract 200mg(100mg egcg)+ red wine extract 200mg + L Theanine 190mg
I start for exsample day 1 monday ,when i finish day 3 (wensday) ,i start again from the begining till saturday. In sunday i take : morning- ginko 100mg ,rhodiola 100mg ,PS 50mg ,DMAE 30mg Hiperizine A 50uq and afternoon i take GABA 200mg +Taurine 200mg+Glycine 200mg and than i continue from monday with day 1…

Everyday i take as well : good multi vitamin+multimineral , inositol 2-3gr ,omega 2gr , magnesium lysinate glycinate 250mg + magnesium l threonate 50mg ,vitamin D 2500ui , cink 20mg ,Vit C 1gr ,niacinamide 150mg , Probiotic , few cups of green tea,flax oil.
i would like to add to the stack Ashvagandha and Bacopa ,Lithium Orotate and CBD Oil but my concerns is Serotonine Syndrome ,if it will be safe to have all this nootropics together and at which dosages? My stack is because im dealing with GAD and small depression ,but im doing this for general health as well. I would be happy to listen your advice ,thanks in advance!

    David Tomen
    January 23, 2019

    Steve, as long as you are not using a prescription SSRI, MAOI or tricyclic antidepressant you shouldn’t be in danger of serotonin syndrome. But you are right that it is possible to boost serotonin too much just using nootropics. Look up the symptoms of excess serotonin so you can watch for the signs. Remember as well that too much serotonin will suppress dopamine which is not a good thing.

      Steve
      January 23, 2019

      Thanks for the answer David ,im not using any ssri ,maoi or tryciclic anti depresants ,also im not using tryptophan or 5-htp (i used tryptophan and 5-htp few months ago)and im still keeping them for anycase,but now im not using with this stack.
      What is your opinion,what to add to my stack from this supplements and at what dosage : Bacopa , Ashwaganda , Lithium orotate , CBD oil ,but to be on the safe side from Serotonine syndrome?

        David Tomen
        January 23, 2019

        Steve, you shouldn’t have any problem with excess serotonin as long as you follow the lower end of the “dosage recommendations” for each supplements.

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