Turmeric (Curcuma longa) is one of the most studied herbs in Ayurvedic, Siddha, Unani and Chinese healing. Turmeric has remarkable nootropic properties. And stands far above many modern medicines used to treat neurodegenerative diseases like depression, Alzheimer’s and stroke.
Turmeric is a perennial shrub native to southern Asia. It is a member of the ginger family (Zingiberaceae). And the Chinese name, jianghuang, literally means “yellow ginger.”
Most of the turmeric we get is grown in India. But turmeric is also cultivated in China, Taiwan, Japan, Myanmar (Burma), Indonesia and throughout Africa.
The primary chemical component in turmeric are a group of compounds called curcuminoids, which include curcumin (diferuloylmethane), desmethoxycurcumin, and bisdemethoxycurcumin. The best studied is curcumin which I’ll make reference to throughout this post on turmeric.
Turmeric also contains other important volatile oils including a- and b-turmerone, ar-turmerone, a-curcumen, and zingiberene. Some of which will also be referenced in this post.
Turmeric works on a molecular level to enhance neurogenesis. It boosts the neurotransmitters serotonin and dopamine. And is a powerful antioxidant helping to protect your brain from chronic, excess inflammation.
Turmeric is also used to treat digestive disorders, skin conditions, cancer, diabetes, heart disease, obesity, liver function, protect from damage to DNA, and treat chest and abdominal pain.
Here we’re going to explore how Turmeric benefits your brain.
Turmeric helps:
- Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor (BDNF): Research shows that the curcumin in turmeric boosts neurogenesis. The production of new neurons in your hippocampus is essential for learning, memory and mood. Low BDNF can lead to major depression, OCD, schizophrenia, and dementia.
- Neurotransmitters: The curcumin in turmeric boosts the feel good neurotransmitters serotonin and dopamine. These neurotransmitters are critical for mood, cognition, libido and focus. Curcumin functions very much like antidepressant MAOI’s and SSRI’s used to treat depression and Alzheimer’s Disease. Curcumin can actually enhance the effect of antidepressants like Prozac and Effexor.
- Neuroprotection: The curcumin in turmeric is a potent antioxidant and helps protect your brain from inflammation. Chronic inflammation has been linked to depression and dementia. Curcumin also reduces the formation of plaques that are associated with Alzheimer’s Disease.
Table of Contents
Overview
Turmeric (Curcuma longa) is one of the most powerful natural remedies in Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine. This ancient herbal remedy has been used for at least 6,000 years.[i]
The major constituent of turmeric is curcumin (diferuloylmethane), which constitutes up to 90% of total curcuminoid content, with desmethoxycurcumin and bisdemethoxycurcumin comprising the remainder.
Turmeric is used extensively in several countries as part of their system of national medicine. Turmeric is listed in the official Ayurvedic Pharmacopoeia of India. In the Pharmacopoeia of the People’s Republic of China. In the Japanese Herbal Medicines Codex.
In Germany, turmeric is listed in the Drug Codex, approved in the Commission E monographs, and in the form of tea in the official German Standard License monographs.
Curcumin and turmeric have been extensively researched for their anti-tumor, antioxidant, anti-inflammatory and analgesic (pain-relieving) properties. In fact, a search of the U.S. PubMed database for research on turmeric returns 5,334 clinical trials on animals and humans.[ii]
And yet the National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health which is part of the same U.S. National Institutes of Health has this to say about turmeric:
“There is little reliable evidence to support the use of turmeric for any health condition because few clinical trials have been conducted.”[iii]
That statement by an official medical resource in the USA tells you something about the American health care system. And its view of alternative medicines. And why sites like Nootropics Expert is so important for our nootropics community. So we can make our own decisions on how to boost our cognitive health.
Turmeric, also known as “Indian Saffron”, has been used for thousands of years in traditional South Asian cuisine, and is the basic ingredient in curry.
One recent study with 1,010 elderly Asian subjects found that those who ate curry “often” or “very often” had significantly higher cognitive performance.[iv]
Turmeric has potent antidepressant qualities. And has been found to be more potent than the antidepressant Prozac. Researchers think Turmeric works by reducing the stress hormone cortisol while increasing levels of the neurotransmitter serotonin.
Turmeric’s main active component curcumin provides protection against Alzheimer’s, major depression, epilepsy, and other neurodegenerative disorders. Scientists believe that much of this protective action comes from curcumin’s anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties.
Curcumin modulates neurotransmitter levels in your brain. And on a molecular level is a potent inhibitor of reactive astrocyte expression which prevents apoptosis (cell death) in your brain.[v]
How does Turmeric Work in the Brain?
Turmeric boosts brain health and function in several ways. But two in particular stand out.
- Turmeric enhances neuroplasticity. Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor (BDNF) is a growth hormone responsible for the creation of new neurons (neurogenesis) in your brain. Higher levels of BDNF can increase mood, intelligence, memory and productivity. And can reduce risks for neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.
Using turmeric or its active compound curcumin can boost your intelligence and memory. And can elevate your mood especially if you’re prone to depression. Several studies have shown that turmeric or its active component curcumin significantly boosts BDNF.[vi]
Researchers found that curcumin activated extracellular signal-regulated kinases (ERKs) and p38 kinases, cellular signal transduction pathways known to be involved in the regulation of neuronal plasticity and stress responses.
Administration of curcumin to mice in this study increased the number of newly generated cells in the hippocampus. Showing that curcumin enhances hippocampus neurogenesis. And that curcumin activity in the brain enhances neuroplasticity and repair of brain cells.[vii]
Another study using the turmeric volatile oil Ar-turmerone showed this compound also supported regeneration of brain cells. Scientists discovered that when neural stem cells were bathed in Ar-turmerone, up to 80% more stem cells grew into neurons or other cells.
Scientists then injected this turmeric extract into a part of rat’s brains where these cells are located. And witnessed a similar increase in growth of stem cells into neurons.[viii]
- Turmeric boosts dopamine and serotonin levels in the brain. These are the ‘feel good’ neurotransmitters in your brain. Turmeric and its active compound curcumin has been studied, and used effectively as an anti-depressant for centuries.
Researchers in India set out to establish how curcumin worked in the brain to provide this antidepressant action. In this study they investigated both curcumin and its ability to boost mood as well as the effect of Piperine as a bioavailability enhancer.
The scientists found that curcumin increased serotonin and dopamine levels in the brain. And inhibited monoamine oxidase enzymes (both MAO-A and MAO-B) just like popular prescription antidepressant MAOI’s. Curcumin even enhanced the effectiveness of popular SSRI antidepressants Prozac, Effexor, and Zyban.
The team found no increase in norepinephrine when using curcumin to boost neurotransmitters. Avoiding the irritability and other symptoms of an over-amped fight-or-flight response.
And the scientists found that stacking curcumin with Piperine significantly boosted bioavailability. They concluded that curcumin combined with Piperine was a “potent natural antidepressant approach to managing depression”.[ix]
How things go bad
Chronic stress, anxiety and free radicals (oxidation) damage your brain. This damage can manifest in several ways including memory loss, brain fog, anxiety, depression, and even neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.
↓ Chronic stress reduces memory
↓ Toxins kill brain cells
↓ Free radicals destroy neurons and synapses
↓ Serotonin and dopamine decline
↓ Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor declines
Under conditions of chronic stress or depression your brain loses the capacity to transmit signals between neurons efficiently. Memory, cognition and decision-making all suffer as a result.
Turmeric to the rescue
A member of the ginger family of herbs, turmeric is the seasoning that gives curry powder its yellow color. It’s long been known for its anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties. And is actively studied today for applications as a nootropic.
Turmeric or anyone of its several active compounds including curcumin and Ar-turmerone undoes damage to your brain caused by depression or chronic stress.
Turmeric and curcumin boosts neuron regrowth (neurogenesis), increases dendrites, repairs DNA, reduces inflammation, counters free radical damage, and boosts neurotransmitters.
Turmeric inhibits monoamine oxidase enzymes (both MAO-A and MAO-B) just like popular prescription antidepressant SSRI’s and MAOI’s. Research shows that curcumin or turmeric can boost the effects of some popular antidepressants.
Boosting the ‘feel-good’ neurotransmitters serotonin and dopamine can alleviate depression, improve mood, boost alertness, cognition, decision-making, memory and even libido.
Curcumin, the most active component of turmeric, activates genes to produce a huge array of antioxidants that serve to protect your mitochondria.
Curcumin also improves glucose metabolism, which is great for maintaining a healthy balance of gut bacteria. This critical microbiome in your gut directly influences how well your brain functions.
How does Turmeric feel?
Curcumin is the main active component of turmeric. So most of the positive reviews and studies have been conducted using curcumin.
Curcumin is known to possess antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory, anti-hypertensive, anti-hyperlipidemic, anti-tumor, anti-cancer, anti-phlogistic, anti-diabetic, anti-psoriasis, anti-thrombotic, anti-hepatotoxic and a host of other useful properties.
If you are in perfect physical and mental health you may not feel the effects of supplementing with turmeric or curcumin. Turmeric’s neuroprotective qualities may not be felt if your brain is in perfect working order. But the effects of long-term supplementation will help you ward off diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.
The most frequent comment from supplementing with turmeric comes from those dealing with chronic pain. Turmeric relieves the pain of osteoarthritis and fibromyalgia.
Chronic pain usually results in insomnia or poor sleep quality, loss of memory, depression, and other stress-related symptoms. Adding curcumin or turmeric to your nootropic stack can help relieve chronic pain. You’ll sleep better and feel more alert the next day.
Supplementing with turmeric or curcumin improves attention, working memory, and mood. And is reported to relieve the symptoms of migraine headaches.
The Research
Eat Your Curry
Curcumin, from the curry spice turmeric, has been shown to have antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. And can reduce beta-amyloid plaques that are associated with Alzheimer’s Disease. But scientists were not satisfied with the evidence of turmeric’s benefits in real life.
So in 2003, a research team in Singapore recruited 1,010 non-demented elderly Asian people aged 60 – 93 years. The authors of the study compared Mini-Mental State Examination (MMSE) scores for three categories and regular curry consumption.
The scientist found that those who consumed curry “occasionally” and “often or very often” had much higher MMSE scores than those who “never or rarely” consumed curry.
The study authors reported that regular curry consumption was evidence of better cognitive performance. The bottom-line → eat your curry.[x]
Turmeric as an anti-depressant
A study conducted in India looked at the efficacy and safety of using curcumin, one of the active ingredients found in turmeric, for treating major depression.
60 patients diagnosed with major depressive disorder were chosen to receive either 20 mg of fluoxetine (Prozac), 1000 mg of curcumin, or a combination of both daily for 6 weeks.
The study found that the best response (77.8%) was with the group of patients treated with a combination of curcumin and Prozac. The Prozac only group experienced a 64.7% improvement in depression symptoms. And the curcumin only group came in at 62.5%.
The researchers concluded that curcumin could be used as an effective and safe treatment for patients with major depression.[xi]
Curcumin Reduces Stress
Turmeric has long been used in traditional Chinese medicine to manage stress and depression-related disorders. Scientists had already figured out turmeric’s antidepressant effects in animal and human studies. So they imagined that curcumin may also alleviate stress caused by HPA (hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal) dysfunction.
For this study the scientists used rats. They subjected the animals to stress for 20 days by putting them through several tasks known to stress a rat.
Putting rats through this unfortunate (for the rats) series of events produced the kind of symptoms you would see in humans subjected to ongoing, chronic stress.
The rats had abnormal adrenal gland weight, increased thickness in the adrenal cortex, elevated cortisol levels, and reduced glucocorticoid receptor (GR) mRNA expression. These changes were reversed by giving the rats curcumin in their food.
The research team also found that chronic stress down-regulated BDNF levels, and reduced the ratio of cAMP to CREB levels in the hippocampus and frontal cortex of the rats. Giving the rats curcumin blocked all these stress-induced physical responses in their brains.
The scientists concluded that these results provided compelling evidence that the behavioral effects of curcumin in chronically stressed animals, and by extension humans, could be related to the modulating effects of curcumin on the HPA axis and neurotrophin expressions.[xii]
Dosage Notes
You cannot get the immediate therapeutic and nootropic benefits of turmeric by simply eating more curry. Or adding turmeric to your food. Turmeric root contains only about 3% curcumin.
The most convenient way to start experiencing the benefits of turmeric is to get a high quality, 100% organic turmeric extract that contains at least 95% curcuminoids.
But curcumin and turmeric on their own are poorly absorbed by your gut. You must boost the bioavailability and absorption of this potent nootropic.
And the most efficient way to boost bioavailability is to combine turmeric or curcumin with Piperine. One study showed combining curcumin with 20 mg of Piperine increased bioavailability by 2000%![xiii]
Turmeric is fat-soluble so you must take it with a high quality fat for maximum absorption. You can use organic, cold-pressed coconut or olive oil.
Standardized turmeric or curcumin extract (95% curcuminoids) 750 mg 3-times per day.
Turmeric liquid extract (1:1) 30 – 90 drops per day.
Tincture (1:2) 15 – 30 drops 4-times per day.
Dried turmeric root powder 2.5 – 4 grams per day.
Side Effects
Turmeric is natural and considered non-toxic and safe when taken at recommended doses.
Taking large amounts of turmeric for extended periods can cause stomach upset, and possibly ulcers.
If you have gallstones or obstruction to your bile passages you should not supplement with turmeric.
Turmeric may lower blood sugar levels which could be a problem for diabetics.
Pregnant and breastfeeding women should not supplement with turmeric.
And because turmeric can act as a blood thinner, stop supplementing with turmeric 2 weeks before surgery. Turmeric can also strengthen the effects of blood thinning medications.
Available Forms
Turmeric is available as a powder, tablets, capsules, tincture and tea. And is preferred over curcumin if you’re using it for inflammatory conditions like arthritis, tendonitis, or an autoimmune condition.
Curcumin is a natural chemical found in, and extracted from turmeric. Several companies have developed their own version of this powerful nootropic.
Sabinsa’s Curcumin C3 Complex® boasts the most clinical studies of any of the patented forms of curcumin. This curcumin product is standardized to 95% Curcuminoids. Sabinsa also produces the standardized Piperine extract called BioPerine®. And supplement makers who feature Curcumin C3 Complex® from Sabinsa also typically include BioPerine® in their formula.
BCM95® by DolCas Biotech is a standardized extract of turmeric containing curcumin-essential oil complex of 86% curcuminoids and 7-9% essential oils. As far as I can tell this is the only extract that includes turmeric volatile oils which is important to cognitive health. Recall from earlier in this article that turmeric volatile oil Ar-turmerone supported regeneration of brain cells
Longvida® is a standardized curcumin extract that the company claims is at least 67-285 times more bioavailable than standard 95% curcumin. But does not contain any of the volatile oils found in natural turmeric. One study showed that this extract increases synapses in mice.[xiv] Another study in humans showed Longvida® significantly improved attention, working memory, and mood compared to placebo.[xv]
Meriva® is another patented form of curcumin combined with soy lecithin. The two compounds are a 1:2 ratio with microcrystalline cellulose added. The company claims that the addition of soy lecithin improves bioavailability of curcumin. Total curcumin in each capsule is 20%. Much higher doses of this curcumin extract are needed for optimizing cognition. And is primarily targeted at bone, joint, eye and skin health.
Active ingredients of Turmeric include curcuminoids and volatile oils. Look for the percentage of active ingredients listed on the bottle or package. Your best option is choosing a standardized extract of at least 95% curcuminoids.
Unless the supplement contains a patented compound from the companies listed above, you can assume that the extract has been processed using toxic solvents to extract curcumin from turmeric (not good).
And avoid supplements that list “other ingredients” on the label. Look for Certified Organic to ensure the root used to make your Turmeric supplement is free of heavy metals, pesticides and herbicides.
Nootropics Expert Recommendation
Turmeric Extract (95% curcuminoids) 750 mg 3-times per day
We recommend using Turmeric or Curcumin as a nootropic supplement.
Your body does not make Turmeric on its own. So to get its benefits you must take it as a supplement.
Turmeric is the anti-Alzheimer’s spice. Studies show that in parts of India where curries are eaten most often, Alzheimer’s disease is extremely rare.
Turmeric is especially helpful for those suffering from depression or chronic pain.
Turmeric has a combination of curcuminoids, volatile oils and proteins that make it anti-bacterial, anti-cancer, anti-inflammatory, and anti-septic.
Some neurohackers maintain that turmeric or curcumin is the best nootropic. You can increase the bioavailability of turmeric by combining it with Piperine (black pepper extract) and a healthy fat like olive or coconut oil.
You can safely take up to 3,000 mg of Turmeric extract daily if needed. Most get all the benefit they need with 750 mg. Dosed 3-times per day.
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Is it OK to stack this with Saffron to enhance the effects? I take 30mg of the affron extract per day (split into 2 x 15mg doses) and 1000mg of curcumin (split into 2 x 500mg doses).
Jeff, I’m not aware of any contraindication. But there is nothing published to suggest that it would help potentiate Saffron.
Can I stack turmeric 1700mg., Caffeine 400mg. per day with Mind Lab Pro? Or can I take the 1700mg of turmeric., Caffeine 400mg. with Tyrosine 500mg.-1000mg. per day together? Both for long term. I struggle with depression, memory loss, ADHD and history of cancer. I’ve been taking caffeine 400mg., Tyrosine 1000mg. and Turmeric 855 mg. for approx 10 years. I’m struggling with major depression for the last year with a huge decline in memory. All suggestions are greatly appreciated.
I should not have said major depression, there’s been a noticeable decline in motivation, short term memory loss with increased sleepiness, mind chatter (ADHD) with brain fog over the last year.
Lori, if those supplements are not working for your depression it’s unlikely that dopamine dysfunction is your problem. Mind Lab Pro may help a little. But you need to find out what is causing your brain fog and decline in memory.
I suggest you read this article and put a little more thought into this: https://nootropicsexpert.com/best-supplements-for-brain-fog/. Because it could be something you haven’t thought of. Like excess inflammation or low hormones, or …
Thank you David, I will read the recommended article.
Hi David, I read the suggested article regarding brain fog. It was very helpful. I’ve added a few more supplements to my daily stack. Several on the list I already take daily. Is it okay to continue taking my L-tyrosine with the Turm? I’ve reduced the Tyrosine to 500mg./day. Your time and effort are greatly appreciated.
Lori, L-Tyrosine and Turmeric work fine together. I use those two supplements 3-times per day with great success.
Hi David. If supplement has 1,200mg of organic Tumeric Root Powder and 300mg of organic Tumeric Root (95% curcuminoids) Extract per serving would you have to take enough to equal 750mg for the curcuminoids? It also has BioPerine Black pepper 10mg.
Kim, my math is not the greatest but I’m pretty sure you’ll be coming up short.
All of my research shows the best, long-term benefit is with Standardized turmeric or curcumin extract (95% curcuminoids) 750 mg.
And I’ve found that for cognitive benefit it helps to have the volatile oils included in the supplement. For example, I use a supplement using BCM-95® which includes turmeric volatile oil called Ar-turmerone which helps regenerate brain cells: https://amzn.to/2MshZl0.
This extract is 650 mg per gelcap which is close enough to 750 mg and I take it 3-times per day.
Thanks David. I wasn’t sure if the 1,200mg of turmeric root powder would increase the curcumin. Appreciate the clarification. I’m hoping to repair whatever damage might have been done from ECT’s many years ago.
Hi
What do you think of patented TurmiPure Gold®
It claims 300 mg of TurmiPure Gold® delivered the same amount of curcuminoids into the bloodstream as did 1,926 mg of 95 percent standardized turmeric with or without the addition of black pepper extract.
Wong, TurmiPure Gold® is an interesting concept but just not sure what the benefits are compared to Turmeric or Curcumin + Piperine.
Naturex, the company behind this supplement reasons that no one has paid much attention to the individual metabolites that make up curcuminoids. They have separated these metabolites out of turmeric and tested them individually including bioavailability.
Apparently, certain metabolites such as demethoxycurcumin (DMC) and bisdemethoxycurcumin (BDMC) may be behind the benefits we get from Turmeric or Curcumin. But what is not known is which of these metabolites provide the benefit. And if more than one or two must be present in the cell or in bone to provide the benefit.
Just because something is more bioavailable does not necessarily make it more beneficial. But time and a lot more clinical testing needs to be done to find out if these guys are on to something.
Hi David,
turmeric + bioperine and rhodiola rosea both act as an MAOI. Is it safe to take them together?
Sven, it depends. It’s safe as long as your system can tolerate the extra catecholamines and you are NOT using a prescription MAOI.
I use turmeric + bioperine from myprotein which lists in ingredients:
Turmeric Powder (Curcuma longaL.)1000 mg
Black Pepper Extract (Bioperine® (Piper nigrum L.))10 mg
My question is, is there any difference between turmeric and curcumin or are they the same thing? Would you recommend me to get curcumin over my current turmeric supplement?
Sven, I’m NOT going to answer that question for you. Please go back to the top of this page and read it all the way down. You’ll have your answer.
Hello David, is it true Curcumin inhibit both Testosterone and DHT? I am a bodybuilder and it’s important to me. Do you think Boswelia is a good alternative?
Mike, first I heard of Curcumin affecting testosterone. So I looked it up! I think this is the study you are referring to: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20346654/.
So far it appears to be speculation based on studies in the lab. It’s not proven in humans. And the comments by the study author (if you look at the full study) is it would take 8 grams of curcumin with bioavailability boosted off the charts before you noticed any effect on testosterone in human males. And even that is speculation.
I haven’t done any research on Boswellia so can’t comment on it.
Dear Mr. Tomen,
since tumeric is thought to be an MAO-Inhibitor wouldn’t it be dangerous to combine it with certain drugs/nootropics, like L-Tryptophan, SSRIs, Methylphenidate or other Amphetamines, possibly Kratom?
Or is there no risk, unless one would take excessive dosages of tumeric and/or other medication/nootropics?
Thanks in advance
Matze
Matze, good question. With Turmeric that would mostly depend on dosage. Because I’m not aware of any contraindications. But it’s worth double checking each med with a drug interaction checker like this one: https://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html
You should not have any problems combining it with most natural nootropics.
Hello David
How many mg of turmeric to consume per day to control the prolactin levels?
Thanks
Serge, I don’t think anyone has the answer to that one yet. There are ongoing human clinical trials to find out. And I’m also not sure if its Turmeric or Curcumin that works best for lowering prolactin. Try doing a Google search and see if you can find something I missed. Try searching for “Turmeric AND prolactin”, and then search for “Curcumin AND prolactin”.
Hi David,
I have been experiencing brain fog (i.e. not able to concentrate, no fluid thoughts, no mental clarity which makes it difficult to read, understand and remember pages of textbooks etc.) for a couple of years now, and I think the cause of this brain fog has been either a long period of chronic stress, which might have hard-wired pathways in my brain, or my use of Efexor.
To combat my brain fog I tried several things. First I tried to reduce the amount of Efexor, and I went down from 75mg to now approximately 20 mg. Reducing my Efexor intake has lifted my brain fog a tiny bit but not significantly. To compensate for a lower dose of Efexor, I took Rhodiola Rosea, which is known for its anti-anxiety qualities. I took this herb for about two years and experienced more energy and stamina, but it didn’t alleviate my brain fog.
I stopped using Rhodiola and since about two months I use Bacopa Monnieri (1x 400 mg, 24% bacosides). It looks like this herb has improved my memory. Until now its effect on my brain fog has been small, but I will continue to use it to see what its long-term effects are.
Today I started with oxiracetam (2x 500mg) and alpha-gpc (2x 300mg), and I must say it gives my brain an energy boost, it seems my focus has increased and my brain fog has lifted somewhat, so I will keep taking these two supplements the coming weeks to see how my brain fog develops.
Further I want to completely taper off of efexor but I’m a little bit worried about an increase in anxiety. Currently with 20mg efexor anxiety levels are quite low, but I’ve read in a comment of yours that aniracetam works great for you. So I’m considering to replace the oxiracetam by aniracetam in a couple of weeks from now and then start tapering off of efexor, do you think this is a good idea?
Lastly, to combat my brain fog I have also started taking a combo of resveratrol and pterostilbene (250 mg vs 50mg 1x) three weeks ago. I had the feeling that I was experiencing vivid dreams because of this supplement, so I reduced the intake to 1/3 of a capsule. I haven’t felt any noticeable effects on my brain fog yet but I might need to take this supplement a little bit longer to experience its full potential.
My second question is whether Turmeric (in combination with Piperine) would be a good addition to my current stack to battle brain fog? You write that Turmeric is anti-inflammatory and is a potent antioxidant which might make it a suitable supplement to eliminate brain fog as inflammation and oxidative stress are causes of brain fog (as discussed in your article about brain fog). My only concern is whether I can use Turmeric (BCM95) in combination with efexor because both affect serotonin levels.
My final question is: do you know any other nootropics that I could add to my stack to combat the brain fog I’m experiencing? Are there for example nootropics that could undo the hard-wiring that takes place after chronic stress? Or other nootropics that should be tried in my combat against brain fog? Thank you so much for your highly informative articles and your time to answer people’s questions.
Adrian, Effexor is a serotonin norepinephrine dopamine reuptake inhibitor. That covers most of the major neurotransmitters. So it sounds like you need to at least boost dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin in your brain. To even come close to replacing Effexor. Please see this new post for how to do that: https://nootropicsexpert.com/best-nootropics-for-anxiety/
Aniracetam works with acetylcholine and dopamine. So may be better for you than Oxiracetam
Turmeric is not contraindicated with Effexor as far as I know.
But you have not mentioned any of the other categories (i.e. hormones, nutrients, sleep and BDNF) I covered in my brain fog post: https://nootropicsexpert.com/best-supplements-for-brain-fog/. I recommend that you seriously consider the other categories as well. Especially nutrients deficiencies and BDNF.
Nutrient deficiencies can be helped with this: https://nootropicsexpert.com/performance-lab-whole-food-multi-review/. And BDNF can be helped with this: https://nootropicsexpert.com/13-nootropics-to-boost-bdnf/
Considering the negative effects Effexor has on our brain I’d seriously look at the BDNF section.
Hi David,
Thank you for your reply. I again took a look at your BDNF article and its comments, and I came across your comment about lion’s mane which says that LM is one of the most powerful ways to boost NGF and BDNF. Instead of Turmeric I think I first start adding LM to my stack. The chronic stress I experienced in my life might have damaged my brain resulting in the brain fog I’m experiencing. Chronic stress kills neurons and results in excess myelin around the axons. Increasing NGF and BDNF via LM might repair damaged neurons, regrow lost neurons, and might even prune the excess myelin (idk whether pruning myelin is possible?).
Im not completely sure whether I can use LM together with efexor? I found the following literature study about LM https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6982118/, and in section 5.2 you can read that LM can increase the level of serotonin and might act as a MAO inhibitor. Can I start with a low dose of LM and see how my body reacts?
Adrian, according to that study they haven’t figured out yet if Lion’s Mane is a true MAOI or how it works with these neurotransmitters. A low dose would be the safest way to test this.