Mind Lab Pro formula updated 2017

Mind Lab Pro Review – Why it’s my preferred nootropic stack

David Tomen
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I’ve been using Mind Lab Pro® every day for the last five years. This is my review of why I use it. And why you may want to consider trying it too.

mind-lab-pro-review I often get emails from Nootropics Expert® readers asking me what my favorite nootropic stack is. And what I use every day. This post is a detailed response to that question.

NOTE: This review has been updated to reflect the changes to the Mind Lab Pro® formula which was refreshed in early 2017.

Mind Lab Pro® is by far the best nootropic stack I’ve ever used. And I’ve tried a lot of them over the last 12 years. Including ready-made stacks from the local vitamin shop to many of the well-known stacks found online.

14 years ago, I was diagnosed with Adult ADD and my doctor put me on Ritalin. It was like the lights suddenly came on in my brain. And for the first time in my life I could concentrate and focus.

Up to then, I took my brain for granted. And hadn’t considered that the health of my brain affected every single aspect of my life.

That point was also the beginning of a journey into how my brain worked. What was wrong, and an earnest search on how to fix it. I’ve read thousands of threads on Reddit, Longecity and nootropic blogs in this search for the ultimate nootropic stack.

My Nootropic Stack Criteria

As this deep dive into neuroscience took shape, I started to develop a map of sorts on what my options were. Areas that I could fix on my own. And other areas that could be boosted and tweaked to get the most out of this amazingly complex organ in my head.

This is the list of cognitive improvements I eventually came up with:

  • increase memory and recall
  • eliminate brain fog
  • support the stimulant I am using for Adult ADD
  • ramp up motivation
  • boost personal confidence
  • help with concentration
  • magnify my ability to learn and retain
  • focus easily
  • maintain a better mood – tone down depression
  • improve vocabulary – words come easily
  • reduce stress levels
  • have better coordination
  • improve sleep

It soon became clear that no prescription drug on earth could help achieve the results I was looking for. A completely optimized brain firing on all cylinders.

So I turned to natural supplements and started experimenting. Through trial and error things started to come together. My memory and recall got better. Confidence levels improved and I was in a better mood. Stress levels went down. And a better night’s sleep was finally within reach.

Anyone who has been down this path of brain optimization knows the expense and work involved. I’ve spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on supplements. Trial and error with different compounds. Buying ready-made stacks that promised a lot. But always fell short in some way.

Eventually I started buying nootropic supplements in bulk powder form and began making my own capsules. Still a costly way to boost my brain power but entirely worth the effort and expense. Both in my career and relationships with those I love.

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Discovering Mind Lab Pro

But I was always on the lookout for the ideal nootropic stack that could help replace some of the many supplements I was taking. And in late 2015 I finally found it in Mind Lab Pro®.

I’ve been using Mind Lab Pro every day since then. And haven’t found another premade nootropic stack that comes anywhere close to what this stack can do.

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Who Makes Mind Lab Pro?

Mind Lab Pro is a premium nootropic stack developed in the U.K. The company promotes Mind Lab Pro as “the first Universal Nootropic” stack that boosts all aspects of cognition in all types of people.mind-lab-pro-amazon

This nootropic stack can be used by students, athletes, competitors in sports and games, working professionals and even those over 55.

So how can one stack promise so much in just two capsules per day? Let’s dig into the ingredients to see what they do in the brain, and how they work.

(Note that every ingredient in Mind Lab Pro listed here links through to a full review of each nootropic on Nootropics Expert. You’ll get more detail on the history, clinical studies, dosage recommendations, side effects and forms available).

Mind Lab Pro Ingredients

This is the formula that the team at Mind Lab Pro created that works so well for me. And thousands of other neurohackers around the world.

    • Bacopa Monnieri 150 mg standardized to 45% bacosides with 9 bioactives cuts back learning time, and improves memory including recall.[i]

Mind Lab Pro formula updated 2017The active bacosides in Bacopa protects brain cells from free radicals which prevents cell damage and death. Bacopa also boosts acetylcholine, GABA and serotonin – all tied to focus, clear memory and better mood. Bacopa even helps boost cerebral circulation.

    • Citicoline as Cognizin® 250 mg enhances attention, concentration, memory, logical reasoning, learning and focus.[ii]

Citicoline helps synthesize phosphatidylcholine (PC), a major phospholipid found in brain cell membranes. And supports the neurotransmitter acetylcholine while providing antioxidant activity.

    • Phosphatidylserine (PS) as Sharp PS® Green 100 mg improves memory and attention, increases cognitive processing speed, and accuracy.[iii]PS is a phospholipid making up 15% of brain cell membranes. Maintaining cellular fluidity, optimizing neuroreceptors and promoting acetylcholine and dopamine.

PS even increases nerve growth factor to help neurogenesis, cell maintenance and repair.

    • Lion’s Mane Mushroom (full-spectrum) 500 mg is effective in improving memory, neuron repair,[iv] liver detox, and regulating blood sugar and cholesterol levels.

Lion’s Mane is the only mushroom that supports brain health. The active hericenones and erinacines stimulates Nerve Growth Factor which helps neurogenesis, and myelin axon sheath synthesis. Improving neuroplasticity which is involved in memory formation, and keeping cell membranes healthy.

    • Rhodiola Rosea 50 mg standardized to 3% rosavins and 1% salidrosides improves mental performance under stress, and enhances mood.[v]

Rhodiola boosts mood by influencing norepinephrine, serotonin and the feel-good opioids like beta-endorphins levels in your brain. It helps neurogenesis, activates the synthesis of ATP, and reduces the inflammatory C-reactive protein in your brain.

    • L-Theanine 100 mg as Suntheanine® improves focus[vi], sleep, immune system strength, and blood pressure control. L-Theanine increases alpha brain waves which are associated with relaxation and enhanced creativity.

It settles excitatory neurotransmitters while promoting calming neurotransmitters like serotonin and GABA. Sharpening attention, alertness and focus that help creative problem solving, learning and studying.

NALT has been shown to promote working memory when multitasking.[vii] And NALT helps optimize mental performance under high stress, fatigue and sleep deprivation.

    • Maritime Pine Bark Extract 75 mg standardized for a minimum of 95% proanthocyanidins. This extract helps increase levels of nitric oxide which helps dilate blood vessels. Delivering more oxygen and glucose to brain cells for more energy, better learning and memory, enhanced focus and elevated mood.

Pine Bark Extract is one the most potent antioxidants ever discovered. Scavenging free radicals to protect neurons from oxidative damage.

    • Vitamin B6  2.5 mg supplied in the bio-identical form of NutriGenesis® vitamins which is critical for the synthesis of the major neurotransmitters dopamine, GABA, norepinephrine and serotonin. Which influence mood, melatonin, and helps regulate your body clock.[x]

B6 also helps protect your brain from excess homocysteine that can damage blood vessel linings. And B6 helps form myelin which is the protective sheath that surrounds axons in your brain and body.

    • Vitamin B9 100 mcg in the bio-identical form of  NutriGenesis® vitamins. This vitamin participates in one-carbon transfers for the synthesis of DNA and RNA. And works with the other two B-Vitamins in this stack help regulate homocysteine levels.

Folate is also involved in gene expression, amino acid synthesis, and myelin synthesis and repair.

    • Vitamin B12 7.5 mcg in the bio-identical form of NutriGenesis® vitamins which is required to regulate homocysteine levels in your brain and body.

B12 is also a cofactor in the synthesis of the major neurotransmitters dopamine, GABA, norepinephrine and serotonin. Low levels of Vitamin B12 has been linked to poor mood and cognition leading to cognitive decline at any age.[xi]

One of the things that stands out in this nootropic stack is the company chooses to use their proprietary NutriGenesis® form of vitamins. Which are nature-identical to ensure these B-Vitamins are completely absorbed and used by your body and brain.

Mind Lab Pro Dosage

The amount of each ingredient listed is for Mind Lab Pro’s recommended 2-capsules per day. You can safely increase your dose to 4-capsules per day. 2 in the morning and 2 early afternoon.

Like every nootropic, it’s always better to start low and see how your body and brain react before increasing your dosage.

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Synergy of Nootropic Ingredients is Key

The key to making this nootropic stack work is two-fold:

  1. the exact amount required for optimal performance from each ingredient
  2. synergy or how they work together and complement each other for maximum results.

This idea of “synergy” is a big deal when putting together a nootropic stack. While each nootropic on its own could call for a higher dosage, when combined they work together better in the brain at smaller doses. But more on these doses in a minute.

Just Say “No” to Proprietary Formulas

One thing that irks me is the way many nootropic manufactures ‘hide’ the exact amount of each ingredient in their stack. They call it their “proprietary formula”.

Mind Lab Pro dosage

But Mind Lab Pro chooses to disclose exact amounts on their packaging. So I know exactly what I’m taking. For me, this shows respect for me as a customer. Then I have the option of upping doses of certain nootropics that are unique to my condition and state of health.

For example, I’m Adult ADD and continue to use 20 mg of Ritalin twice a day. Ritalin works by blocking the reuptake and degradation of dopamine in my brain. Making more dopamine available to help my focus and concentration.

The problem for me, and for many with ADD and ADHD as we get older is there’s not enough dopamine in my brain to start with.

Mind Lab Pro addresses this lack of dopamine with NALT. But in my case, the dose of NALT is too low. So I add 800 mg of NALT and 1,000 mg of ALCAR each time I take my Ritalin dose.

The result has been greater efficacy of Ritalin. I’ve never had to increase my dose of Ritalin due to tolerance. And at the end of my day, I don’t experience a stimulant ‘crash’ which is common when using these types of stimulants.

Do I consider this a ‘con’ for Mind Lab Pro? Absolutely not. Because while I need extra dopamine and acetylcholine in my brain, you may not. Unless you’re dealing with something like ADHD.

And I know exactly how much NALT and ALCAR to add to this stack because Mind Lab Pro tells me how much they are supplying in their stack. There is no guessing.

How Mind Lab Pro Works in Real Life

I love this nootropic stack. Two capsules in the morning with a tablespoon of organic unrefined coconut oil. And it launches my day. In my case with ADD and being hypothyroid, I take another two capsules at noon with coconut oil.

I also use 1,000 mg of DHA in the morning. Along with Aniracetam and Sulbutiamine. Since starting Mind Lab Pro my productivity has increased. My mood is better. Focusing on several projects is not a problem. Work seems to go faster. And I get more done in less time.

Everything just seems better. And life flows.

Mind Lab Pro is Impressive value

One of the things I’ve learned over the years of working with nootropics is it’s not cheap. In fact, taking each nootropic on its own in my case, can add up to a few hundred dollars per month.

Mind Lab Pro great value

But using Mind Lab Pro has dramatically reduced my nootropic budget. Here’s a breakdown of how much each of these nootropics would cost if purchased individually.

Note: These prices are from Amazon.com here in the USA at the time I write this. They’re usually competitive with other retailers online, and brick & mortar stores. Prices could be different in your part of the world, or when you read this.

Bacopa Monnieri (45% bacosides) 250 mg – 90 capsules $14.99

Citicoline (Cognizin®) 250 mg – 60 capsules $20.38

Phosphatidylserine (PS) (Sharp PS® Green) 100 mg – 120 capsules $48.97

Lion’s Mane Mushroom (full-spectrum) 500 mg – 60 capsules $8.99

Rhodiola Rosea (3% rosavins, 1% salidrosides) 250 mg – 60 capsules $7.86

L-Theanine (Suntheanine®) 100 mg – 60 capsules $11.49

N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine (NALT) 350 mg – 120 capsules $12.29

Pine Bark Extract (95% proanthocyanidins ) 100 mg – 300 capsules $18.52

Vitamin B6 (P-5-P) 25 mg – 100 capsules $17.95

Vitamin B9 (folate) 400 mcg – 90 capsules $7.21

Vitamin B12 (Methylcobalamin) 1 mg – 60 capsules $18.95

The total of each of these evidence-backed nootropics when purchased individually comes out to $187.60.

Now I realize that the dosages in this comparison are often higher when used individually. The quantities per bottle are often higher than a monthly supply. And I’ve included supplements packed in vegetarian capsules which are often priced a little higher than regular capsules.

Sure, I could re-calculate each of the comparison prices by counting capsules per bottle to figure out the exact monthly dose.
Adjusting the price per capsule accordingly.

But my point here is the cost of buying each of these nootropics individually will be higher. Much higher than what the company charges for Mind Lab Pro.

Mind Lab Pro for a 30-day supply if you take the recommended 2 capsules per day is only $69.00 (+ shipping & handling).

You can also choose a 3-month supply (3 boxes) of Mind Lab Pro for $207.00 and get one box free (including free international shipping & handling). That works out to $51.75 per box.

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Pros & Cons of Mind Lab Pro


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Mind Lab Pro has taken an extra step to include NutriCaps® instead of regular vegetarian capsules in their stack. These vegan caps are made from tapioca.


Most competitors (including the nootropics listed above) use HPMC vegetarian capsules which are made from a semi-synthetic polymer.


Now, let’s look at what I think are the pros and cons of this premium nootropic stack.


Pros


  • Full disclosure on the amount of each ingredient
  • High quality branded ingredients (i.e. Cognizin®, Sharp PS®, NutriGenesis® vitamins, Suntheanine®)
  • Vegan natural NutriCaps®
  • Highly bioavailable B-Vitamins (P-5-P and methylcobalamin)
  • No additives
  • Organic when available, and always free of toxic heavy metals and other contaminates
  • Tested prior to encapsulation for allergens, GMOs, microbes, pesticides and herbicides
  • Batches are re-tested to confirm potency, purity and activity after encapsulation
  • Ships in recyclable cardboard security boxes filled with biodegradable packing peanutsmind-lab-pro-packaging-biodegradable
  • Competitively priced


Cons



In all, I think the dosages included in Mind Lab Pro are perfect for this stack. In these dosage ranges side effects are minimized, or non-existent.


And because they fully disclose how much is in each 2-capsule dose, I have a better idea on what I need to add to this stack for my unique issues.


Nootropics Expert Recommendation

Nootropics Expert Tested and ApprovedI recommend Mind Lab Pro as a nootropic stack for total brain optimization.

Pricing of Mind Lab Pro is very competitive for what you get. Some on reddit.com and other blogs have commented that the company only sells this stack from their site. And don’t offer a free trial.

I’ve been in internet marketing for many years and completely understand the hazards of offering a free trial. Especially when you’re selling a high-quality product at the best price you can to stay competitive. It doesn’t make sense to offer free trials when you back it up with a risk-free, “empty bottle”, money-back guarantee.

The company has also decided not to offer Mind Lab Pro on Amazon.com because they don’t want this stack to appear alongside low-quality junk products. I get that. Amazon can also be a place where reviews are easily manipulated by jealous competitors.

And for anyone looking to understand the methodology that went into developing this stack, Amazon.com is not the place for extensive product descriptions.

So if you’ve been experimenting with nootropics for a while, or even considering getting into neurohacking – I recommend giving Mind Lab Pro a try.

This is the best pre-made nootropic stack I’ve ever tried. And this after nearly 10 years of trying dozens of nootropics. Both individual ingredients, and various stacks by different manufacturers.

It’s certainly not the cheapest nootropic stack on the market. But it’s not unreasonably priced either at only $69 for a month supply. You can’t put this stack together individually for less than twice or even three times what Opti Nutra charges.

And for me, Mind Lab Pro went the extra mile by going top notch with everything in this stack. Product and packaging quality, brand name ingredients, testing and more testing, organic when they can. Right down to using and NutriGenesis® and NutriCaps®. Touches the average person wouldn’t even notice. Now that’s cool.

If you’d like to try Mind Lab Pro, or learn more about this premium stack, please go to their website for more:

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[ii] “Citicoline,” WebMD. www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements. Retrieved November 24, 2015

[iii] “Phosphatidylserine,” WebMD. www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements. Retrieved November 24, 2015

[iv] Wong, K.H., Naidu M., David, RP., Bakar R., Sabaratnam V., “Neuroregenerative potential of lion’s mane mushroom, Hericium erinaceus (Bull.: Fr.) Pers. (higher Basidiomycetes), in the treatment of peripheral nerve injury (review)” International Journal of Medicinal Mushrooms. 2012;14(5):427-46. (source)

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[vi] “Theanine,” Mitchell, Terri. Life Extension Magazine. www.lifeextension.com. January 2006. Retrieved November 24, 2015.

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[xi] Louwman M.W.J. et al “Signs of impaired cognitive function in adolescents with marginal cobalamin status” The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition September 2000 vol. 72 no. 3 762-769 (source)

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Dennis Durost
January 23, 2019

David: Opti-Nutra recommends cycling Mind lab Pro either 5 days on and 2 off or 4 weeks on and a week off. I notice you take it daily. Opti-Nutra claims the brain performs better using the cycling method. What say you?

    David Tomen
    January 24, 2019

    Dennis, cycling Mind Lab Pro may work better for some people. But that has not been my experience. I’ve been using it daily since late 2015 and it’s made a huge difference in my life.

    Everyone is wired different a sometimes looking for a different experience from using nootropics. I suggest you try using it daily for a month and the next month try cycling. And see if you notice any difference.

Dave Hewison
January 14, 2019

Hi David,

I just wanted to take the opportunity to thank you for this outstanding site, as well as your video’s which are enormously helpful.

I have been suffering extreme fatigue over the last couple of years, exacerbated by a separation early last year and becoming a single dad with little to no support from my ex partner.

I was also suffering depression and was seeing a professional, who prescribed Duloxitine which is an SSNRI and that probably helped get me through the worst of the separation but it blunted me to the point where i almost stopped working. I’ve since come off that (very happily!).

My fatigue got the point where i had to sleep in the afternoons and my work suffered causing my income to virtually stop. I’m self employed so that isn’t a great look – no fall back.

I decided to try Modafinil and that’s been a godsend, but it’s not the wonder pill many bang on about, at least for me. That said, most days, it keeps me awake which is fantastic and an excellent starting point to getting back on track.

I’ve since been looking at Nootropics, and I also happen to have some MLP which i tried a few years ago without any positive results, but I stopped them too quickly.

So I’ve been trying various stacks for about 6 weeks not and here’s the current one I’m trying now:

Morning

Modafinil 100mg
L-Theanine 200mg
MACA – 5grams (I think maybe that’s too much)
Alpha GPC – 300mg
Vitamin D3 5000ui
Omega 3 – 2000mg
Dopa Munuca – 60mg
B Complex
Multi Vitamins
Mind Lab Pro – 2 x caps
SAM-e – I’ve ordered this but its not arrived yet

Night

5HTP 200mg
Now Sports ZMA – 3 caps for the magnesium 450mg

I also take the odd Oxiracetam along with another Alpha GPC from time to time, but I don’t notice any change.

So far, this stak appears to be working, i no longer have any brain fog, i can barely remember what it feels like to have it actually. My mind is much clearer and I have much more motivation in the mornings, but afternoons are still very difficult. So there’s an improvement, but not yet where i need/want it to be.

What I’m looking for is –

Energy
Focus
Motivation
Stamina (I’m a recruiter so I need to sit in front of a PC searching for candidates, reading CVs, interviewing and presenting to clients all day – about 10 hours a day)

I’ve ordered Noopept and SAM-e to test them out too. The SAM-e was based on your advice to help balance serotonin and dopamine as I am taking L Dopa and 5HTP.

Is there anything you’d change in that stack?

Also, which racetam might you choose as an alternate to Oxiracetam?

I know this is a long email, I appreciate your time reading it!

Cheers,
Dave.

    David Tomen
    January 14, 2019

    Dave, you’re definitely on the right track. The one thing that jumped out at my was you high dose of 5-HTP. I suggest re-visiting that one. Take a look at my sleep posts because you may be able to get the sleep you need by naturally boosting melatonin with something like tart cherry juice. Or Performance Lab Sleep.

    I’d also consider increasing your dopamine precursors. Either add NALT and/or increase your dosage of Mucuna.

    Noopept is a good option. I find that my productivity increases when using it. And I’d choose Aniracetam before Oxiracetam. Double or triple your Alpha GPC dose.

    And consider changing your dosage schedule so your taking some of these half in the morning and half at noon. And consider trying some NALT and ALCAR around 4 pm. Each time you dose should be with a high quality fat like unrefined coconut oil.

      Dave Hewison
      January 14, 2019

      Wow, that was fast! Thank you so much, I will try your suggestions and report back 🙂

      Dave Hewison
      January 14, 2019

      OK thanks for such a quick reply!

      If I add NALT in the afternoon, along with ALCAR, given i already take L Dopa and I’m looking to increase that – would that be too much dopamine in the stack?

      I’ll try your suggestions and report back! Thank you 🙂

        David Tomen
        January 15, 2019

        Dave, it may be too much dopamine but the only way to find out is try it. Look up symptoms of excess dopamine so you can tell if you over did it.

        BTW, I do offer personal consultations as time permits. Please send me an email using the contact form (link in the footer) and I’ll get back to you.

        Dave Hewison
        January 15, 2019

        OK, I’ll try it out 🙂

        Message sent with email BTW..

        Cheers,
        Dave.

    Dave Hewison
    January 14, 2019

    Hi Again David, Further to my last message, I forgot to ask you whether you offer personal consults and if so, what do you charge for them? Maybe if you could email directly with details?

    I also mentioned I’m looking for:
    Energy
    Focus
    Motivation
    Stamina

    I forgot to add the following:
    Mood enhancement – I’m still suffering from depression, but it has improved a little.
    Anxiety – I Want less of it! It’s what i think is the main reason my work has suffered, I can’t bare the thought of picking up the phone most days.

    Thanks,
    Dave.

Sushil Simoliya
January 6, 2019

Hi David,

What is the right time to take MLP (morning empty stomach or in the evening)

Thanks

    David Tomen
    January 6, 2019

    Sushil, you can take Mind Lab Pro in the morning or early afternoon with or without food.

      David
      May 4, 2019

      Hello David,

      First thank you for your website.

      I am not sure to understand this answer as I thought you mentioned that NALT shouldn’t be taken with food.

      Did I miss something ?

      Thank you

        David Tomen
        May 7, 2019

        David, NALT is an amino acid and food that includes meat is also amino acids. Taken together means NALT needs to compete with the same amino acid transporters as those from food. If you take NALT with a meal chances are you will not experience the same benefit as you would taken an hour before or two hours after a meal.

Andrea
December 15, 2018

Hi David!
I was on PL website for their Whole-Food Multi and discovered their other interesting formulas.
One of them looks like a reduced version of Mind Lab Pro.

It is simply called Mind, and contains only some of the ingredients of MLP:
Citicoline (Cognizin®), 250mg (same quantity)
Phosphatidylserine (Sharp PS® Green), 100mg (same)
N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine, 300mg (more)
Maritime Pine Bark Extract (standardised for min. 95% proanthocyanidins), 75mg (same).

For a reduced price (about 20%), and considering taking it with their multi, what are your thoughts on that?
Would you suggest me to try it, or to stick to the big brother?

Thank you!

    David Tomen
    December 15, 2018

    Andrea, you are correct in you evaluation. Performance Lab Mind was designed to be used with a multivitamin. In particular the B-Vitamins critical for neurotransmitter synthesis.

    My favorite is using Mind Lab Pro with the Performance Lab Multi. But you should have similar results using the combo you just discovered.

      Andrea
      December 15, 2018

      Lovely, thank you!

Jason
December 7, 2018

The only problem I have with Mind Lab Pro is that I can’t get an answer from them concerning the quality of their Lion’s Mane. I have asked what the mushroom is grown on, where it’s grown and the minimum percentage of glucans.
Finally, I was told that their Lion’s Mane has a minimum of 25% Polysaccharides. But, that doesn’t necessarily speak to the quality of the mushroom. After asking for an update about a week later they told me they would have to forward my request to a colleague. I never heard back. So I sent another email a few days later and they said my questions have been sent to their “manager, who is currently out of the office”… I never heard back.
So it came time to reorder a couple weeks later and so I sent over another email asking if they have been able to get my questions answered and I simplified my questions to what is the beta-glucan content and what is the starch content of their Lion’s Mane mushroom. I was promptly told that my inquiry has already been forwarded to our R&D team but that they would send a follow up message to them. It’s now been a few more days and I have still not heard back from them.

I will update this or send a follow-up reply if I ever hear back from them, but it seems I’m getting the serious run-around as to my questions concerning the quality of the Lion’s Mane in Mind Lab Pro.
Having said all of that, the other ingredients within Mind Lab Pro are well defined and of high quality and still make this product worth the purchase price, but anyone taking this product expecting much from the Lion’s Mane should adjust your expectations until they make a statement concerning the starch content and the beta-glucan content of their Lion’s Mane. I would actually pay more if this is a high quality Lion’s Mane or if they switched to a proven high quality Lion’s Mane mushroom, but as presently stated, I have no idea if it is.

    David Tomen
    December 9, 2018

    Jason, I highly doubt you’ll be able to find out what the mushroom is grown on. According to Cornell University there is only so many ways to commercially grow Lion’s Mane Mushroom: http://smallfarms.cornell.edu/2015/04/06/lions-mane/

    I suggest contacting the Customer Service team at Mind Lab Pro again and asking specifically for a “Certificate of Analysis” for the Lion’s Mane they’ve used in the last batch of MLP. If you feel like you are getting the ‘run-around’ tell them David Tomen from Nootropics Expert specifically said to ask for the CofA.

    I know that these guys test and test their products before, during and after encapsulation. This information is available. But I also know that their business is growing like crazy because it’s a good product. And they’re doing their best to keep up in the Customer Service area. Including hiring more people.

    Let me know later this week if you’ve received what you are looking for by responding to this comment.

HAREL
December 3, 2018

Hello Mr. David Tuman,

A month ago I started taking Mind Pro.
Next week I have an important test.
Currently I use: Attent (Adderall) 30mg At 11 am + 30mg At 15 pm
It helps me.
I take 60mg at one time – it works much better, but in the evening it’s over – I’m very tired.

I have concentration problems and some anxieties. The pills help me and the situation has improved but the problems still exist and I still have trouble concentrating.

 So I also take nutritional supplements:

That I get up in the morning – before the meal – L-Carnosine 500 mg
After half an hour / hour, I eat breakfast and then I take-
DMAE, 250 mg
+
ActiveBrain:
(Phosphatidyl Serine 100 mg Phosphate Acid 100 mg)
+
HTP-5 100 mg
+
Omega-3
+
Mind Lab Pro
+
B-Complex 50

At 10-11 pm:
GABA 500 mg
   

At 11-12 pm:
Melatonin 5 mg

All this I started taking two months ago. That does not help me. the opposite. Since then I have not been able to learn well.
Next week I have a very important test.

I wanted to ask, did – what I take, that much?
What is their combined interaction?
What is allowed to take together? What time of day?
Is before food / after?
What do you recommend for the day of the test? (The test from morning to night).

Thank you for your help.

HAREL

Jennifer Decker
November 15, 2018

Mr. Tomen, is there any other way to make an order besides using a credit card. I have tried 2 times with no avail.

EUAN
October 24, 2018

Hi David,
I have been suffering with depression and anxiety ever since I was 12. I’m now 32 and have been on nearly every ssri, snsri, nri, trycyclic and mood stabilizer known to modern medicine with very little and/or only short lived success and always with uncomfortable or even unbearable side effects.

In January this year I decided to cut all the crap and go medication free! I could only hack this till just after my birthday in May when I (unfortunately- if only I had read this blog first!) Started taking 5htp, needless to say it didn’t work. I then tried vortioxetine (brintellix/trintellix) only lasted on it for 3 and a half weeks due to severe gastric upset.

To top it all off, most of this year has been spent in and out of hospital with an array of debilitating symptoms which has culminated in a diagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome/me and severe osteoarthritis in my cervical spine. I have spent the last few months researching the best way to end my life but despite my constant pain, anguish, brainfog and thorough torment I have come to the conclusion that I haven’t got the balls to do it and that somehow (f**k knows how) my body and/or brain wants me to live.

I have a good diet and I am currently taking:

A good food based multinutrient, natural b complex and high quality fish oil and extra magnesium (transdermal oil spray) and mega spore probiotic also 3 monthly b12 injections

ativan for anxiety but want to get off it as soon as possible

Morphine sulphate (low dose) for pain.

Zopiclone 2-3 times a week to try and get some sleep but again, i want to get off this as soon as possible.

I will NEVER put another pharmaceutical antidepressant or mood stabiliser in my already fragile body and burnt out brain as they have all led to misery in the long run. And have long since cut all ties with the useless, harmfull and life wrecking mental health system.

Interestingly, the only time I ever feel anything close to feeling happy is when ive taken all three medications together. With my limited pharmacological understanding I have identified that opioid related endorphins from the morphine and gaba stimulation from the ativan and zopiclone may be the reason I feel better at these times. I can briefly feel love and affection again for my family, friends and my dear little dogs and “normal feelings even close to happiness.

I want to try mindlab pro partly for convenience and partly to take some of the guess work out of making my first stack. Do you think this stack is appropriate for me?or do I need to do something completely different? Also, if it is a good place to start, is there anything it’s missing that I should add (like sulbutiamine) for the specific relief my complex problems which im gonna simplify, in order of severity, here goes…..

Depression (no joy in anything, no natural lifts in life e.g. the sun shining, spending time with people I love and no motivation to do anything)

Anxiety ( debilitating enough that it controls my every movement, holds me hostage in every environment and destroys any and every attempt to lead a normal life)

Fatigue and brainfog (affecting my memory recall, concentration and makes me feel as though I have a fish bowl mechanically locked on to my cranium!!!)

Many thanks in advance, to say I am grateful for any advice/pointers you can give me is the understatement of my lifetime!! And eagerly await your reply. Blessings, Euan Mackenzie

Ps I should have said, i live In the UK and might not have access to certain products

    David Tomen
    October 25, 2018

    Euan, I know how you feel because I was in that spot about 6 years ago. It took me nearly 3 years to finally get healthy again and I’m now functioning better than I ever have. So there is hope and I encourage you to keep experimenting with nootropics until you start feeling better every day.

    Mind Lab Pro is great start. But you are going to need more. Use MLP as your base and build from there. Please take a look at my current stack and read each review that is linked in that post so you have a better understanding on how each works. You’ll find that list here: https://nootropicsexpert.com/what-i-take/

    I do offer personal consultations as time permits if you are interested.

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